Public reply to Bodie Hodge of AiG.

A reply to Bodie's load of shit at AiG

"Are you tired of all the evil associated with the philosophy of atheism—Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, and so on?"

Bodie, no one associates those kooks with atheism except christians. Those tyrants were mentally ill. And in point of fact, Hitler was not an atheist, but a Catholic Christian. There is no evil associated with atheism except the evil you try to impose on atheists for not believing the same superstitions as you. Most atheists are good hard working people who are compassionate and generous. If atheism is inherently evil as you imply, why are atheists 11+% of the population at large yet less than 1% of the prison population? The numbers seem to say that atheists are more moral and law abiding than more so called christians. 

"After all, most murderers, tyrants, and rapists are not biblical Christians, and most have rejected the God of the Bible."

Wrong. Absolutely wrong. Religion has a gigantic body count. From the crusades to the inquisitions to the dozens of wars fought over religions and countless other despicable acts. 

"Even if they claim to believe in the God of the Bible, they are not really living like a true Christ follower (who strives to follow God’s Word), are they?"

Who's to say? The God of the bible has murdered millions by his floods or other so called judgements to ordering genocide by his followers. 

"Do you feel conflicted about the fact that atheism has no basis in morality (i.e., no absolute right and wrong; no good, no bad?) "

Not at all. Atheism speaks to *one thing only*. The lack of belief in gods. Period. It doesn't have any position on morality or any other matter. It doesn't speak to aesthetics or ethics or anything else. In fact that you and other christians keep spewing this "atheism has no basis on morality" is just intellectual dishonesty. 

Do you feel conflicted that your bible endorses rape and slavery and doesn't denounce molesting children? For a so called moral guide, your bible promotes the most vile aspects of human behavior. Do you feel conflicted that your god allowed the devil to murder people over a fucking bet? Does it bother you that in your precious bible, your god has a body count in the millions and Satan only one of 10? Seems to me you are worshiping the wrong character in that book.

"And further, knowing that you are essentially no different from a cockroach in an atheistic worldview (since people are just animals) must be disheartening."

Hardly! That we have survived to become all that we have is something to be proud of! We live in a universe that doesn't know or care we exist and has been "trying" to wipe us out for eons, speaks to our resilience! That is not something to be disheartened about, but is the sound of our triumph! 

"Are you tired of the fact that atheism (which is based in materialism, a popular worldview today) has no basis for logic and reasoning? Is it tough trying to get up every day thinking that truth, which is immaterial, really doesn’t exist?"

Again atheism doesn't speak to logic or reason. Just the disbelief of your god claims. Please try to get that through your thick skull.

That you don't understand that simple point makes it pointless to respond to the rest of your misguided claims.

"Invitation: I invite you to reconsider that the false religion of atheism is simply that."

I invite you to realize that your religion is a delusion. I invite you to join reality and leave your stupid beliefs behind you! I invite you to realize that atheism is not a religion any more than the color "blue" is part of the audio spectrum.  But till you accept those invitations and decide to be intellectual honest, I invite you to go fuck yourself. 

Ken Ham begs the question...

Without Genesis . . . Our Children Learn the Bible Cannot Be Trusted

When our church leaders teach believers, especially youth, that Genesis 1–11 is untrustworthy, they are teaching (unwittingly or not) that the Word of God is not authoritative. While it may seem hard to believe that the denial of 11 chapters from just one of the 66 books of Scripture could have such a negative impact on people, it has been confirmed by the research presented in Ken’s book, Already Gone. Two-thirds of our children are leaving the church by the time they reach college age. And the majority of them do not believe that Genesis 1–11 is accurate or reliable. Church leaders’ compromise on Genesis, including their incorporation of evolution and millions of years, is teaching our children that the Word of God lacks authority—and our children suffer the most from the results of such thinking.

 No shit?  Really?

All available evidence tells us that all of Genesis, Exodus, etc is untrustworthy as it doesn't fit any of the available facts. The lack of collaborating evidence is astounding! Normally absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, but in this case, the astonishing lack of evidence is not just evidence of absence, but conclusive!

We can conclude that the if the god of the Christian bible is as he is described in the bible, then he doesn't exist!

These kids are not leaving because they don't believe in Genesis, but because they discovered you have been lying to them about the lack of congruence between the bible and reality! They are not suffering from the results of this discovery, but being freed from your archaic superstition and hopefully finding the real world far more interesting than your fables and myths!

Question for Genesis literalists

I would love to hear the explanation for this that just isn't patently absurd.

Most "young earth creationists" (YECs) claim that there was no death in the world before the "fall of man" when Adam and Eve sinned. As a direct result of this concept, all creatures, including man were vegetarians.

This causes a number of questions that I have never heard a sufficient answer to.

1. How do you explain that all plants are living things and would be killed the moment they were eaten and digested? 
2. Why would Adam and Eve and all the other animals have to eat at all if there was no death? 
3. What would have happened to them if they didn't eat before the "fall"?
4. A number of creatures can only live from dead or decaying matter. When were they created?
5. When were viruses created? Bacteria? Fungi?
6. Why use would vipers and spiders have for venom? Heat sensing pits? Webs? 

That's just to start, but I am sure we can go on and on should anyone have plausible answers. 

Ken Ham is a lying twit

Ken Ham claims that evolution, even if given billions of years, has no chance of working.

He tries to make it simple.

"Darwin’s idea × billions of years × 0 (chance of actually happening) = 0."

He is dishonest as he does accept so called "microevolution" but denies so called "macroevolution". He does accept microevolution as he would be daft not to, but he is equally daft to not accept macroevolution.

What is "Darwin's Idea"? “Darwin argued that macroevolution is just microevolution writ large, or that the process we see and study as the cause of microevolution will, given sufficient time, also cause everything that we attribute to macroevolution.” (Travis and Reznick 2009, p. 126).

So Ken is actually saying here is that microevolution doesn't actually work or exist! He is in full denial mode now! If you really want to see how dishonest Ken is, read The Greatest Show on Earth By Dawkins, Richard

Poor Ken Ham is not happy.....

Ken Ham of Answers in Stupidity Genesis is not a happy camper right now because many churches are not falling in line with his delusion that the earth is 6000 years old and dinosaurs lived on the earth with humans before a global flood.

"...what is happening in the church today is exactly what the atheists want to see happen. The atheists know that if they can get Christians to compromise God’s Word in Genesis, eventually there will be a generational decline in the acceptance of the authority of all of God’s Word."

 Is this really a bad thing?  Ken knows that evolution is a reality. He knows there was no global flood. he has been corrected countless times about the lies he spreads. But Ken doesn't really care. Why? Ken is not really a fundamentalist christian. The fundamentalist is his mark, his cash cow.

Ken thinks there is hope for him:

But here is the encouraging part:

• Thousands of churches now use AiG’s Vacation Bible School (VBS) program.
• Our new Bible curriculum—covering all the books of the Bible—will be released in the fall; we have already seen incredible interest in it.
• More Bible-defending resources than ever are being purchased from AiG.
• The AiG website attracts several million visitors each year.
• And hundreds of thousands of people, including tens of thousands of kids, are coming to the Creation Museum every year.

 As you can see, these are all products that Ken sells or helps him sell his product. He closes his letter with several requests for donations as well. Clearly Ken is in this for the money and method of income is to spread the madness of young earth creationism.

Poor Ken Ham and AiG kicked out of two home school conferences

Answers in Genesis has been uninvited from two home school conferences. 

Because Ken dared speak out (in a nasty way) against someone who doesn't share his same views who will be speaking at these two conferences and was told to stay home? Why does AiG seem so miffed?  Was it because they are competition to AiG's income and they won't see any money from these meetings at all now?

HS resource sales are a large part of AiG's income. So, the reason Ken is miffed is sort of obvious... He might have to take a pay cut.

Oh!! The hypocrisy!

Answers in Ignorance... err. I mean Genesis has a gem today I noticed from this tweet:

New article: News to Note, March 5, 2011: Bible-believing Christians need not apply...

Clearly AIG is not happy about these people being denied the privilege of being foster parents because they are bible believing bigots, like AIG.

But let's look at AIG's own requirements for employment with them.....  Even if you want to be on their housekeeping staff, you must submit:

Items needed for possible employment:

• Resume
• Salvation testimony
• Creation belief statement
• Confirmation of your agreement with the AiG Statement of Faith

 This is in complete violation of the EOE Act as it relates to religion.

Ken Ham is proud he fooled a 6 year old child......

His Heart Has Been Changed

"A family were visiting their brother & sister in law for Thanksgiving and wanted to come to the Museum; they tried to convince their extended family to come with them, but they declined. So they came, the Friday after Thanksgiving and went through the entire museum, ending with the Last Adam show. At the end of the show her 6 year old son . . . grabbed one of the cards (credit card type, the one you can sign the back of if you make a commitment to Christ) and took it home. Later that night, as he was drying off from his bath, he turned and looked at his mom and asked, “Mommy, am I a Christian?” So they talked and prayed because he really wanted to know Jesus. He was so happy after that while he was brushing his teeth, he kept stopping to sing,” I’m a Christian, I’m a Christian!” They went and told his dad then pulled out that little card and he proudly signed his name and dated the card. It is now stored in his memory drawer."

Congratulations Ken!  You managed to convince a child (at an age where virtually all children have problems discerning between fantasy and reality) to believe your fantasy!  How proud you must be!

Petition to remove Answers in Genesis, Creation Ministries International, Institute for Creation Research from Google Scholar

Google Scholar provides a simple way to broadly search for scholarly literature. From one place, you can search across many disciplines and sources: articles, theses, books, abstracts and court opinions, from academic publishers, professional societies, online repositories, universities and other web sites. Google Scholar helps you find relevant work across the world of scholarly research.


Unfortunately, they are also listing the works of AIG, CMI, and ICR as valid sources for students to find information. These groups don't qualify as scholarly sources as they are not interested in facts or truth, but pushing their own biased view that anything that contradicts the bible must be wrong. 


Each group has the following statement in their 'About Us - Statement of Faith': "By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record." or something very similar. Clearly this is a license to lie and / or deny evidence that doesn't support their view. 


The National Center for Science Education collected over 800 signatures from scientists in the three states closest to the museum (Kentucky, Indiana, and Ohio) on the following statement:

"We, the undersigned scientists at universities and colleges in Kentucky, Ohio, and Indiana, are concerned about scientifically inaccurate materials at the Answers in Genesis museum. Students who accept this material as scientifically valid are unlikely to succeed in science courses at the college level. These students will need remedial instruction in the nature of science, as well as in the specific areas of science misrepresented by Answers in Genesis."

Fortunately, there is a petition to ask Google to remove these sites from Google Scholar. I encourage you to sign this petition if you agree that these sites should be removed. Go here to sign the petition: http://www.gopetition.com/petition/42229.html

I feel honored.... Ken Ham quote mines little ol me....

Last night I put some fliers on cars at a church while the Hamster and Weaselnose were spreading their young earth stupidity inside. Today the activity got a mention on his blog. He was nice enough to quote mine my flier and violate his god's 9th commandment. I am not surprised as this is par for the course for him.

The actual text of the flier is here