I pity Steve Sanchez's kids. I really do.

So Steve had this to say: 

The Stupid Family 

I’m teaching my daughters to get used to feeling stupid. 

During a recent visit to the Griffith Observatory we engaged in a game called “Find the lie.” As we experienced the many wonderful displays revealing God’s creation in the cosmos we also read some of the theories that pass for “science.” 

“Girls,” I said excitedly, as we looked at the Supernova display, “find the lie!” 

They replied, “Hydrogen and helium are the two most abundant elements. They were made in the Big Bang more than 13 billion years ago.” 

“Very good!!” I affirmed. “Read the other lie, too.” 

“Our bodies are made of elements that came from stars that died as supernovae.” 

A mother with a teenaged daughter overheard our conversations and whispered something. The daughter gave a knowing smile toward the stupid family.

You really have to feel sorry for these poor kids. Their education is being sabotaged by their own father! It's really sad that he thinks an ancient book is more reliable than the whole of the science community. Sadly if his kids want to enter the science community they will need years of remedial education to undo the damage done by their own father.

He actually wants them to think they should be proud of being stupid. And people wonder why atheists say that teaching creationism to children is tantamount to child abuse.

To Steve's daughters: If you really want to not be "stupid" then please find a university professor in the UC or Cal State system to talk to you and explain why your father is an idiot and while his intentions may be misguided, you will pay the price for his stupidity later on in life. Feel free to contact me as well and I will keep your secret and tell you where to get the truth.

Steve Sanchez claims I threatened his church??

Steve Sanchez says:
April 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm

Actually, he threatened my church’s tax exempt status when we promoted the 180 movie several months ago.

This is a lie. I didn't threaten his church, I just informed him that he were putting his church's tax exempt status at risk due to some of the content in the video can be viewed as campaign intervention.

I wrote:

Steve,

You might want to have your tax lawyer look at the video and then research the following words: "Political Intervention".

By promoting this movie, you are risking your church's 170.b.1.A.i tax status.

This is not Issue Advocacy, but Political Campaign Intervention in an election year.

Ray makes this Political Campaign Intervention by telling people not to vote for candidates who support choice.

Steve replied the next day:

Thanks Jim!

Yours ever heartily,

Pastor Steve

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Steve the liar and banner

Steve Sanchez says he has to ban a few people, including me. 

Fine. Then I will reply to him here.

I completely wiped all mention of one particular unbeliever and all his comments because of his persistent surliness.

That would be me. Wow. To resort to the drastic measure of deleting ALL of my replies to him? Talk about a blatant lie right there. That is the lie of omission.

Also, when there is a constant refrain that I’m lying, I will delete it. I don’t lie.

Really? You don't lie? I think I just showed that as untrue.


I owe you no apology. On the contrary, wipeing out all my posts is unforgivable for someone who supposedly loves free speech and his religious first amendment rights.

Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

I have seen your supporters defame and lie about me and other atheists here. Other "Christians" here engage in such skulduggery, permitted by you, that proved to me that either 1) you are no "true" Christian or 2) you believe that such immoral acts, done in the name of your God, are totally forgivable and the ends of saving sinners justifies the immoral and dishonest means.

The way I see it, you and several of your supporters owe us apologies. Not vice versa.

If you disagree then come to smrt where we only censor spammers and not those who merely disagree.

A great loss.... Christopher Hitchens dead at 62.

RIP Christopher Hitchens - greatest literary provocateur of my lifetime. Huge talent, huge loss

And to you christians, like Ray and Steve and Tony... 

Be respectful and not the ghouls you usually are. 

All atheists are...

This gem today from a Christian who calls himself "OnBootyDuty" (and please do check out his YT channel for the lovely respectful of women videos he has there). 






"Besides most Atheist are either racists been raped, molested or heard about some preacher who lived as a hypocrite(actor), and therefore hates all Christians..."


Wow. All I can say is WOW. 


And "OnBootyDuty" wins today's Moron of the Day award!

Public Response to Richard Chavarria's & Steve Sanchez's dishonesty and censorship

Richard Chavarria at Steve's blog made a claim that "10,000 people become Christians and every day there are 300 less atheists"  Clearly this is a bogus claim, but we were willing to let him save face by posting a source or a retraction. Unfortunately Steve has censored the living shit out of that page and the entire thread has been cleansed.

This is par for the course at Stone the Preacher.

This is my reply that I am sure Steve will not have the balls to approve.

What in the world is going on here??

Richard made an unsupported claim that was clearly BOGUS. When called out on it he ducked and dodged and spun to ignore the fact that he made a bogus claim. He even threw out a red herring that the NYT is not to be trusted because it made a mistake SIX decades ago!! Likely everyone who was a part of that screw up is dead by now! 

I am going to say it. Richard, a person you call “Righteous” and whom you have allowed to moderate comments here, LIED. Because you preach with him and have allowed him to moderate here, his lie reflects on you, Steve.  And now you are censoring the fact we have caught him in a lie??? You are now a willing part of his deception! 

Is this the sort of face you want to present with your ministry? I have lost ALL respect for you, Steve. You are a dishonest coward. 

I am sure you will not have the courage to allow this post, but it has been posted and preserved at Smrt. 

Go to hell Steve. It's time for your blatant dishonesty and censorship to end.

Steve Sanchez's blog and why I will no longer post there

As some of you may know, Comfort's stupid "180" propaganda piece was released today. Steve Sanchez at Stone the Preacher started pimping the movie and instantly started censoring the critical comments. He will not allow ANY posts that refute or debunk the movie. 


My reply to the post was the following: 

"Steve, I watched this movie a few weeks ago. I am simply not convinced. The whole argument is based on the flawed premise that a clump of cells is a human being. By that rational, a finger when chopped off, is a human being. Cells does not a human make. Humans have a personality and consciousness. A fetus hasn't had and of those things. What does bother me the most in this video is how badly the education system has failed these people. Lack of historical knowledge and very very poor critical thinking skills." 

This is what edited my post to read: 

"[FULL DISCLOSURE: This atheist's comment has been edited for content and taken I have taken it out of its original context. I left in the parts of the comment that demonstrate compassion.]

Steve,
I watched this movie a few weeks ago.
What does bother me the most in this video is how badly the education system has failed these people. Lack of historical knowledge and very very poor critical thinking skills." 

Another user posted this:

"This will be my last comment on the blog until Steve posts my comment in its original, unedited form or deletes the hack job he did.
Unlike Ray and the others, I thought you might have been a better person, Steve. But I now see the frightened person you really are. Makes me sad, Steve." 

This is the edited version by Steve: 

"[FULL DISCLOSURE: This atheist's comment has been edited for content and I have taken it out of its original context. I left in the parts of the comment that demonstrate compassion.]
This will be my last comment on the blog…. "

Another user posted:

"I feel sorry for all the mothers who were forced to make that decision. I do not understand why you would want to take that decision away, when by the same logic your deity kills far more than abortion through miscarriages." 

Steve edited the post to this: 

"[FULL DISCLOSURE: This atheist's comment has been edited for content and I have taken it out of its original context. I left in the parts of the comment that demonstrate compassion.]I feel sorry for all the mothers…." 

 Clearly these posts have been edited to not allow discussion and some even changed to appear to support the movie. 


Steve, if you are reading this, what you did was wrong. Very wrong. It is dishonest to alter the words of another person like that and then make it seem that their original words were mean spirited. 


I don't care if you think ending abortion by any means necessary is the right thing to do. It's not. The ends NEVER justify the means.